episode 3.9 in which our hosts demonstrate that they don't edit their podcast

episode 3.9 in which our hosts demonstrate that they don't edit their podcast

Cody and Craig try to figure out the deep mysteries of life (including the sound recording feature on Zoom) but give up and talk about music, God, food, sports, and life. And the extended Holy Season which continues through the Super Bowl.

Check out the links below, or go to https://www.themissionplace.org/allthatsholybluecollar/ to review the lists of books, articles, music, movies, and other resources mentioned (or we didn’t get around to mentioning) in the podcast.  Some of these might be great to worship resources, but more likely, ways to expand our imaginations.  

You might think we talk about God and the bible to help preachers find something to talk about. Reality is, most preachers don’t need help finding something to talk about.

Sometimes we need less to talk about.  But, the scriptures are not just for preachers and teachers to talk about. Rather, how does the bible affect family life, business and consumer choices, and how we lead our institutions and organizations.  Really, we’re trying to pull the bible out of the preacher’s hands and get the wisdom of church seasons, cycles of scripture readings, and the stories and rituals of faith in to all our hands.


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Looking Ahead

List of Holy Days (Protestant and Catholic) https://www.calendarlabs.com/holidays/christian/2019

Listing of Orthodox and Catholic Saint Days http://saintsresource.com/saints-of-the-month/saints-month-listing

US National Days https://blog.hubspot.com/marketing/social-media-holiday-calendar-2017

All Holidays, Commemorative, and National days http://www.holidayscalendar.com/months/

Epiphany 4-6C for January 27 through February 17

Many of the themes from Luke in the Season after Epiphany are meant to open up Jesus’ followers to the outsiders and the alien.  Alan Culpepper in The New Interpreter's Bible notes that Luke is written with a context of invitation and inclusion: sinners are those over whom God rejoices when found; Samaritans are called ‘good’; women from the beginning with Elizabeth and Mary embrace the radical message and other women join in central roles (Joanna, Anna, Susanna, Mary the Magdalene, Mary and Martha); and the importance of ‘table fellowship’. Jesus does more eating, drinking, and partying in this gospel with sinners than other gospels.

Cody applies a fresh insight on the excisement of Jesus as a symbolic death as he is being rejected from the synagogue.  Luke 4 describes a series of events that can be viewed with fresh consideration.

Fourth Sunday after the Epiphany Jeremiah 1:4-10 Psalm 71:1-6 1 Corinthians 13:1-13 Luke 4:21-30

Fifth Sunday after the Epiphany Isaiah 6:1-8, (9-13) Psalm 138 1 Corinthians 15:1-11 Luke 5:1-11

Sixth Sunday after the Epiphany Jeremiah 17:5-10 Psalm 1 1 Corinthians 15:12-20 Luke 6:17-26

Seventh Sunday after the Epiphany Genesis 45:3-11, 15 Psalm 37:1-11, 39-40 1 Corinthians 15:35-38, 42-50 Luke 6:27-38


Clothing - Well...soccer scarfs.  In Craig’s tradition, pastors don’t wear stoles.  But if Craig did, he’s looking to get one of the Portland Timber’s scarves supporting kids and refugees.  


The Timbers came to Boise in 2018 not just to market the team and expand the fan base, but to send a message of inclusion after a local youth soccer team received a hate-filled racist letter.

Portland Timbers visit Idaho's Juniors Futbol Club, “The Portland Timbers soccer team paid young soccer players a visit Monday in Meridian to promote inclusion after the club received a racist letter in January.” https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/local/portland-timbers-visit-idahos-juniors-futbol-club/277-552107508


How to Download the Books That Just Entered the Public Domain


Starting at midnight on January 1, tens of thousands of books (as well as movies, songs, and cartoons) entered the public domain, meaning that people can download, share, or repurpose these works for free and without retribution under US copyright law.

What Happened When I Made My Students Turn Off Their Phones

I used to make students sing or dance if their phones interrupted class, and although this led to some memorable moments, it also turned inappropriate tech use into a joke. Given the myriad deleterious effects of phones – addiction, decline of face-to-face socialisation, deskilling, and endless distraction, for starters – I want students to think carefully about their phone habits, rather than to mindlessly follow (or not follow) a rule.


Here’s What “Millennial Burnout” Is Like For 16 Different People


I do believe that burnout is a shared, defining generational experience, but that doesn’t mean it works or feels the same way for all millennials — or that it’s limited to people our age. My own experience (as a white, upper-middle-class, college-educated woman) provided the backbone of this particular essay, but it was just the beginning of a conversation — not the end.

“God - Funny” from Comedy Central

Not many of these are any good in a sermon, so good luck: Stand-up comics one-liners, punch-lines, and short stories about religion. From Comedy Central


Techcrunch.com: This clever AI hid data from its creators to cheat at its appointed task

“Depending on how paranoid you are, this research from Stanford and Google will be either terrifying or fascinating. A machine learning agent intended to transform aerial images into street maps and back was found to be cheating by hiding information it would need later in “a nearly imperceptible, high-frequency signal.” Clever girl!...the computer is so good at slipping these details into the street maps that it had learned to encode any aerial map into any street map! It doesn’t even have to pay attention to the “real” street map…”


Seattle Times, ‘Seattle-ization’? American cities fear what’s happened here

When a city succeeds economically it may mean the development of an exclusive city.  Economic gain and social and cultural loss. As well as a rise in economically disadvantaged and homelessness.  Be careful what you wish for.


Biblical Waters: Can the Jordan River Be Saved? And The Dead River? How the waters of the Jordan run foul

Two articles providing information on the the current status of the biblical site of Jesus’ baptism, and the location may contemporary pilgrims seek for their own baptisms.

“If Jesus were to plunge into the Jordan River today, he might well injure himself.”


“Those wishing to follow in Jesus’s footsteps and be soaked in the Jordan’s waters have to go to specially designated – and relatively pollution free - baptism areas.”



The Politics of Jesus,  by John Howard Yoder


Analysis of the political and economic issues within the context of the Luke’s gospel. Essential reading for understanding the radical call of nonviolence of Jesus as well as in depth historical criticism.

“The believer's cross is no longer any and every kind of suffering, sickness, or tension, the bearing of which is demanded. The believer's cross must be, like his Lord's, the price of his social nonconformity. It is not, like sickness or catastrophe, an inexplicable, unpredictable suffering; it is the end of the path freely chosen after counting the cost. It is not, like Luther's or Thomas Muntzer's or Zinzendorf's or Kierkegaard's cross, an inward wrestling of the sensitive soul with self and sin; it is the social reality of representing in an unwilling world the Order to come.”

The Araboolies of Liberty Street, by Sam Swope


Since the Gospel of Luke loves to include the different and the excluded. One of my favorite stories seems to fit the theme.


Craig has been listening to four albums lately.  These are in the Spotify Playlist ATHBCP: Epiphany: Everyday Apocalypse https://tinyurl.com/y7fh68sg Next week, Craig’s planning to spend more time with the newest Guster album just released today (1/18/2019)

It’s Just So Weird, Receiver: Juliana Hatfield on Weird

Light On, Past Life, Back in My Body: Maggie Rogers on Light On

The Trap, Of Course, I have a Dream: Derek Minor on The Trap

The Hardest Art, Native Tongue: Switchfoot on Native Tongue

(See the fanvideo of Native Tongue https://youtu.be/Fa5o-_QsCfs)

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Here are some extended notes about some of the previously added songs on the ATHBCP playlist

I Know How to Speak, Manchester Orchestra


A song is about a “beautiful impending weight”, as Andy Hull, of Manchester Orchestra describes the song: “This song was originally and roughly formed a few years ago, about the impending weight of the future….We spent some solid time this year revisiting and reworking and recording the song into its final state. I found it inspiring to work on this song right before the birth of my son, which was and is beautiful impending weight.”

Blood, 21 Pilots


A perfect song to sing while fleeing to Egypt:

When everyone you thought you knew

Deserts your fight, I'll go with you

You're facin' down a dark hall

I'll grab my light

And go with you, I'll go with you

I'll go with you, I'll go with you

I'll go with you, I'll go with you

I'll go with you, I'll go with you

Bicycle Rider, Starflyer 59


Some of us got married, went to seminary

Or found a job where the people are

And then we're asked to carry, loads that are too heavy for

And it makes us crazy, it makes me crazy

It makes us crazy, it makes me crazy…

I'll change my mind and I'll be true

'Cause blessings come by the black and blue

I'll rest my head 'cause God is good

I'll rest my head 'cause God is good

Outside, Foo Fighters


Oh, I found the space between the spaces

Standing in the nothing, and time will cling to

And as the wind will beat you down

And the wind the only sound

There's something out there

There's a long straight road, out of the cold

And we can leave it all behind

I wanna get outside, baby, let's get outside

I wanna get outside, outside, of me